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  Looking for a quote by Francis Crick

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 21 of the watchtower’s 2010 brochure, “the origin of life” says of the biologist.

  “francis crick … decided that dna is far too organized to have come about through undirected events”.. i cannot find this quotation being made in writing by crick himself.. the wts’s brochure refers to the book, “the search for extraterrestrial intelligence – a philosophical inquiry”, by david lamb but it is not clear to me that the brochure is saying this view by crick is being cited in lamb's book.. where will i be able to read this statement being made by francis crick?.

  and while we are looking at that wts brochure, page 16 makes some interesting claims about teaspoons.

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  Anders Andersen

  Doug,

  No, that is not the entire article. It's merely an abstract.

  What I normally do is use sci-hub.tw to read scientific papers and articles. You need to copy the entire DOI number as shown on top of the page you linked to.

  DOI:10.1096/fasebj.7.1.7678564 in this case.
  

  A DOI number is a unique identifier for scientific publications.

  Paste the number in the search box on sci-hub.tw and the paper will be downloaded.

  This works for almost all publications that have a DOI or Pubmed ID.

  FYI legally this is a bit of a grey area. Sci-hub use credentials freely provided by persons with access to scientific library sites to login to those sites and download the paper for you. The library sites of course don't like this, but they have no copyright to the papers they're hosting. Those papers were originally published for free by scientists. Now I don't care about that too much and I use sci-hub often. Knowledge should be free ;-)
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  Looking for a quote by Francis Crick

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 21 of the watchtower’s 2010 brochure, “the origin of life” says of the biologist.

  “francis crick … decided that dna is far too organized to have come about through undirected events”.. i cannot find this quotation being made in writing by crick himself.. the wts’s brochure refers to the book, “the search for extraterrestrial intelligence – a philosophical inquiry”, by david lamb but it is not clear to me that the brochure is saying this view by crick is being cited in lamb's book.. where will i be able to read this statement being made by francis crick?.

  and while we are looking at that wts brochure, page 16 makes some interesting claims about teaspoons.

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  Anders Andersen

  Doug,

  Download this file: http://www.guilliard.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Discussion-The-Origins-of-Life-Misquotes.pdf

  It's a commentary of the JW brochure. Search it for Crick and you'll find additional info on the quote.
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  Looking for a quote by Francis Crick

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 21 of the watchtower’s 2010 brochure, “the origin of life” says of the biologist.

  “francis crick … decided that dna is far too organized to have come about through undirected events”.. i cannot find this quotation being made in writing by crick himself.. the wts’s brochure refers to the book, “the search for extraterrestrial intelligence – a philosophical inquiry”, by david lamb but it is not clear to me that the brochure is saying this view by crick is being cited in lamb's book.. where will i be able to read this statement being made by francis crick?.

  and while we are looking at that wts brochure, page 16 makes some interesting claims about teaspoons.

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  Anders Andersen

  It appears the authors of the brochure didn't understand a single thing in Lamb's paper, or they simply messed up the reference to the source.

  Lamb refers to some of Crick's own writings, perhaps the quotes can be found there?
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  Looking for a quote by Francis Crick

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 21 of the watchtower’s 2010 brochure, “the origin of life” says of the biologist.

  “francis crick … decided that dna is far too organized to have come about through undirected events”.. i cannot find this quotation being made in writing by crick himself.. the wts’s brochure refers to the book, “the search for extraterrestrial intelligence – a philosophical inquiry”, by david lamb but it is not clear to me that the brochure is saying this view by crick is being cited in lamb's book.. where will i be able to read this statement being made by francis crick?.

  and while we are looking at that wts brochure, page 16 makes some interesting claims about teaspoons.

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  Anders Andersen

  Doug,

  The brochure itself refers to the source. It's taken from The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence — A Philosophical Inquiry, David Lamb, 2001, blz. 83.

  You can freely download a copy of that publication here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12097898_The_search_for_extraterrestrial_intelligence

  Edit: can't find the quote yet either...
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  2019-August Announcements and Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  english.

  https://docdro.id/rzjx912.

  same file as above in german.

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  Anders Andersen

  Thanks!
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  International convention

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this week i see many jw going over the top and beat their (sometimes medical) limits for the convention preparation with music, ethnic cloats and greeting costumes.. my jw grandparents will turn in their grave.. my opinion is that the jw organization has given their blessing at it because of "give them bread and games".

  it keeps the rank and file busy.. what i don't get is that the oldtimers accept all these changes.

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  Anders Andersen

  @Gorby,

  I severely doubt I'll be going to the convention as my main concern is keeping my young daughter away from there.

  Otoh I'd like to go there and perhaps meet a few old JW friends or new pimo/exjw friends.

  So I'll be checking the 'weather' in my family and see if going there just for the lunch intermission is an option that doesn't reopen too many wounds.

  If so, I'd be happy to make your acquaintance in person :-)

  In any case, hang in there. It's 3 says of boredom but at least you managed to get rid of most regular meetings right?
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  Disaster Preparedness Training - WTF is that?

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm making plans for next weekend and my wife says she's not available saturday.

  "is there an assembly?

  " i asked.. no, disaster preparedness course (or something like that) at the kingdom hall.. is this new?

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  Anders Andersen

  My guess: this fits exactly in Watchtower's MO (as everything they do).

  1. It reinforces the persecution and Armageddon complex.
  2. It gives Watchtower a documented way to show the government they really are a charity because they give non religious disaster preparedness courses.
  3. As per point 2: I wouldn't even be surprised if Watchtower gets some kind of government grant or subsidy for their Disaster preparedness school....
  4. It gives Watchtower yet another way to impress the JW with their disaster relief works. That way JW will give more money for that goal, and Watchtower gets to earn even more from their profitable insurance scam.
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  International convention

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this week i see many jw going over the top and beat their (sometimes medical) limits for the convention preparation with music, ethnic cloats and greeting costumes.. my jw grandparents will turn in their grave.. my opinion is that the jw organization has given their blessing at it because of "give them bread and games".

  it keeps the rank and file busy.. what i don't get is that the oldtimers accept all these changes.

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  Anders Andersen

  I just arrived at a bungalow park at 20 minutes from the convention site.

  My in-laws and wife (all pimi) wanted to stay close to the convention and wanted to hire a bungalow for the weekend. Due to it being high season they could only book a full week. I decided to come with them for the week. The alternatives were having to take a week holiday with my daughter but without my wife, or having my daughter go with them and thus also visit the convention. Neither were very enticing so here I am.

  Upon arrival it became clear the park is filled with JW. Guess who will have the pool all to themselves this weekend? :-)
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  NEW SENTENCE IN NORWAY

  by Eliseo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a new sentence in norway.

  the court has invalidated a disfellowshipping!.

  https://testimonidigeovaconsapevoli.blogspot.com/2019/07/norvegia-nuova-condanna.html.

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  Anders Andersen

  What about separation of church and state?

  As a Norwegian exjw on Reddit explained, this is not really a court. Is a mediation 'court' below the real courts to unburden those.

  From wikipedia:

  Conciliation boards

  A conciliation board is allocated to each municipality. Each conciliation board consists of three lay members and an equal number of deputies elected or appointed by the municipal council for terms of four years. Conciliation boards mediate between disputing parties and are generally authorised to pronounce a verdict. Conciliation boards resolve the majority of civil disputes, but they do not hear criminal cases and participation in their hearings is voluntary.

  So Watchtower will probably just have a judge look at this and get it thrown out..
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  “I got two ticket to paradise!”

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and i don’t mean eddie money’s paradise.... you just can’t make this stuff up.

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  Anders Andersen

  Holy crap. But that flight number....JW1914....seems like a .......slight........delay?
  Wasn't that flight supposed to have landed in 1914 already, and now it still hasn't finished boarding?

  Worst airline ever. But they're good at building in the air though...